Thanks to all of you for coming and for the kind comments. It was good fun checking out all the bridleways (in the winter of course when at least half were deep in mud) and planning the course. The turnout was almost as good as at Markington, which was pleasing given that Pool is at the south edge of NYMBO’s usual terrain.
From a quick scan of the routes, there was no consensus about the right order to tackle the controls. Exactly as I had hoped. Most people chose to avoid the north east and many started along the south edge, although the two sites in Danefield were strenuous and a bit harder to locate than most of the others. Ian, Ian and Andy who finished within 7 points of each other at the top used quite different strategies. Ian Nixon did by far the most cycling, but got stuck on almost the only really grotty bridleway in Stainburn Forest and finished up a bit late.
MapRun is by no means perfect but it does reduce the need to find ‘clues’ and involves no hardware in the terrain – although I did put out a couple of tapes at sites where there was no feature, in case MapRun didn’t work there. Most of the MapRun failings in the results were down to human errors, for example failing to start the App or losing a phone. And control 24, which I had failed to get to work twice, was fine for everyone. As the GPS signal seems to vary with weather as well as terrain, it may be that we need to hold our events on nice days? But there were a worrying handful of you whose GPS dropped out during the event, just as mine did at Markington. I wonder if MapRun cannot reconnect easily with a phone on a bike that is moving – on the whole – faster than with a static or slower moving phone? I think, on balance, that MapRun is here to stay for Trailquest type events, but it needs a slightly different approach to planning, and may not do for events in steep wooded terrain on wet days.
My thanks to Quentin Harding for uploading the MapRun files for me, to Tim for map printing, to Steve and Dave for managing the NYMBO website, to Cecily at Pool Memorial Hall and to Alistair Wood for all sorts of help with the event. I was going to put a control in his garden in Leathley but decided that it might be a bit too confusing.
Here are the provisional results from yesterdays event – hopefully everyone had a great ride! Tony’s noted a few issues with MapRun results – so if there’s something on the table below that’s not quite right please drop him an email (email@example.com). Full report to follow later.
3 hour event – again using MapRun but with a paper clues option if you prefer that (please drop an email to firstname.lastname@example.org if you would like that option so we know how many clue sheets to print)
Registration 08.45 – 10.00 and starts from 09.00 – 1015.
Limited parking at Pool Memorial Hall LS21 1LG (but please try to depart by 1pm before the cricketers arrive)
Alternative parking at the White Hart LSA21 1LH if you pre-order lunch (website or call 0113 203 7862)
If that runs out then park south of Pool bridge near the garage
David Day has compiled the final results table and this matches the results on the MapRun site now too. Thanks for all the feedback on MapRun – we’ll take this into account for the second event on June 12th (there will also be a paper ‘treasure hunt’ version for this event too).
There were 52 riders for Saturday’s event – which was a great post-lockdown turnout, despite Friday’s weather adding to the challenge! A big thanks to David Day for the course planning (and re-planning) and event organisation. It was also our pilot event for MapRun, so plenty to report on. The Control Map, David’s report and the results are all here:
Markington was NYMBO’s & BMBO’s first MapRun event as a trial where we did not use treasure hunt clues or SI boxes. Local orienteering club Claro have successfully put on several foot O MapRuns, both urban & in the wilds of Nidderdale, using Open Orienteering Map [OOM] & OS maps.
About half of Markington’s competitors had problems getting their phones to get a GPX fix on MapRun; Smartwatches seemed to fare OK, although both use GPS ie satellites mobile phone signal is poor in the village. It is not clear yet what the problems were so it would help planning for future events if you can tell us your experience yesterday – what devices did you use, what network you are on, was it successful, how easy did you find it to load your track onto the MapRun website; email David Day with your thoughts. If you want your route uploading please also e-mail Tim or David (email@example.com)
MapRun cannot accommodate BMBO’s standard penalty system so I have recalculated MapRun scores where penalties applied & the results spreadsheet reflects this. When loading your course onto MapRun it is possible to add controls which did not register on the phone & subtract those which it counted twice – this happens if a control is passed more than once. There are some entries on MapRun which do not have a score or a time – try to put this right if it applies to you.
During the event it became apparent that we should have had a pre-start where competitors could fire up their phones & then move to the start proper some distance away where timing would start when the phone recognised the start. The finish had to be at a location which could not be passed accidentally en route to controls as if the phone recognises the finish this ends the competitor’s track, hence the finish behind the pub well away from the road or nearby BW.
The Markington event was originally planned in December, then January, then lockdown 3 happened. The winter version avoided the muddiest BWs but as the event changed to summer there was an element of re-planning to utilise what should have been more rideable tracks. Then ….. it rained most of the week & ruined my plans. Even the Roecliffe to Bishop Monkton road was flooded axle deep but passable fortunately. Now for the results: There was a tie for the winner on 342 points – Ian Nixon & Andy Conn; 3rd on 293 was young local rider Ben Collins whose Strava track boasts how good is was to not be held back by his Dad!, 4th on 290 was local rider Tim Evans no doubt using his experience of the area. First lady was the evergreen Andrea Foster on 277, Sue Booth came next with 260; Please check your scores & times & advise me if they are wrong; ‘no track’ means there was no track of the ride submitted to the MapRun website, ‘manual MapRun’ means that no track was submitted but controls visited were entered manually. You can look at others’ routes by clicking on their track & entering the PIN on the back of your map. One rider failed to report to the finish which did cause some concern to the organising team about the well being of that rider, thankfully located safely at home later.
Entry for this weekend’s event is now closed and there are around 60 riders booked for Saturday which is great – a few things to note:
Entry list: you can see the entry list here, which should include most of the manual deferred entries. If you can’t see your name and you think it should be there, please reply to this email. There are a couple of duplicates that can’t be removed, so don’t worry if you appear twice (or if you’ve let us know you can’t come)
Parking – limited parking at the pub and at the Village Hall, so street parking may be the best option. If you live close, you may also wish to consider riding to the start!
Pre-ordering Food – it’s the first weekend that Yorkshire Hussar has been able to fully open and we’re keen to support them as they have been kind enough to allow us to use it to host the event. If you are planning on eating it will help them a lot if you can pre-order tonight or Friday to ensure they can meet demand. The menu is on our website, the Yorkshire Hussar website is here and Facebook page here and their phone number is 01765 677715
MapRun – if you’re using the MapRun app on your phone make sure it’s MapRun6, and don’t forget to get the course (folder is UK:North Yorkshire:NYMBO:Markington21) – updated FAQ here
Course map – the blank course map is here, and everyone will get a colour printed map at the start (as always, you won’t need your phone for the map)
For our first event post the recent Covid lockdown, we would ask you to ensure you’re observing the guidelines – we’ve not used start times as we did at the last couple of events, but it will take a little time to set everyone off.
There’s still time to enter our first league event of 2021, at Markington this Saturday 22nd May. Enter online here by midnight Wednesday. If you’re got a deferred entry, please email to confirm your place and you’ll be manually added to the list.
Further details about the event in the previous post here.
Remember we’re trying out Maprun for this event – you’ll need either a SmartPhone with Maprun loaded; or a GPS watch or bike computer that allows you to export the gpx file after the event – FAQ here. If you have neither available, get in touch so we can come up with an alternative solution.
Food! – support the pub by ordering food in advance, menu below, link to the Yokshire Hussar here.
Note that the nymbo.org website change has now been implemented. If your browser is still changing to nymbo.org.uk then you may need to clear the local cache in your browser settings.
We’ve had a few questions about MapRun, so thought easiest to consolidate into one post.
Will I still get a printed, colour course map to use when riding?Absolutely. Everyone will get a map at the start, no need to use your device when riding.
I’ve got a Smartphone, what do I need to do? you will need to download the Maprun6 or MaprunG App – downloads for Apple and Android here. You then need to load the Markington event – best to do this when you know you have a good connection. You don’t need a connection when actually taking part in the event.
I don’t have a Smartphone, but I do have a GPS watch (like a Garmin)? You can use a watch to track your course, and then load a GPX file onto the Maprun website when you get home.
I don’t have a Smartphone or a GPS watch,what do I do? Let us know so we can make alternative arrangements! We may have a spare phone that you can use.
I liked the treasure hunt clues, will these still be an option? For the first event at Markington, the option of clues won’t be available; but this an option for the second event at Pool in Wharfedale – let us know when you enter if this is your preference
When I’ve downloaded Maprun to my phone, what do I do? There are local foot O events on the Claro, Clok and Aire websites and the maps can be downloaded and tried on your bike or on foot, they also include lots of instructions.
When I reach a control, do I need to do anything? Will Maprun ‘beep’ to let me know it’s logged the control? Your phone will notify you when you go through the start, a control and the finish and to start and finish the event you MUST go through the start and finish.
Other things to know about MapRun:
All participants must use MapRun6. For those already using MapRunF, please remove this and load MapRun6. Once loaded, please select the ‘Name’ tab and add your name etc.
If using an Android phone, have the battery save mode switched off as this can switch the GPS off and allow Maprun to run in the background, and to provide notifications.
For those using Garmin watches that can run MapRunG, you still need to use MapRun6 to load the event to your watch. If using MapRunG for the first time, please try using it before the day to ensure that your watch is correctly paired with MapRun6.
MapRun6 is very easy to use but there are a number of things to remember while using MapRun6. If you haven’t used it before then see if there is an ‘event near you’ that you can trial with before the day :
Make sure that your phone/watch is fully charged.
Load the event you are doing via ‘Select Event’ then select the following folders: UK North Yorkshire NYMBO select the event MarkingtonMay21
Map issue with the PIN number will be away from the start triangle. Once you are ready to start, touch ‘Goto Start’, and enter the PIN number given on the map, the map will appear on the screen. The bar at the bottom of the screen indicates the GPS accuracy, it starts red and moves through to green. When green it should suggest an accuracy of less than 10m.You are now ready to start.
Move to the start triangle on the map, when you are within range your phone will beep and the timer will start, you may wish to check this on the timer above the map. One timer counts down the other up. This also tells you how many you have punched and what the last control number was.
On the map on the screen, the triangle, control and finish symbol turn green when punched.
Visit controls as you normally would, at each the phone will beep, the control circle turns green and the control number appears by ‘Last;’ the top of the screen.
If you are sure you are in the right place and it has not registered, continue on to the next control. It can be awarded later from the GPS trace.
DO NOT GO TO THE FINISH CIRCLE UNTIL YOU WANT TO FINISH, it will stop timing you if you have visited just one control or more.
Once finished your time and score will be automatically calculated and put in the results listing. If you wish to look at the track on routegadget you will need to enter the PIN number you used at the start.